RCMP officials contacted "UFO" eye witnesses yesterday and indicated that the case is now closed. They were not able to either confirm or deny that the object was or was not a missile. Possible, but They just don't know, they say.
Remember that one eye witness had been told that the object was indeed a missile, that the military were made aware of the situation and that it would be "a one time only thing." They were also told the missile had come from the French. Interestingly enough, days later the French did indeed fire a missile. Coincidence? Possible, but unlikely.
Yours truly actually opened the UFO file with the Marystown RCMP (my son was also a witness) but because I had ties to the media I was told to go elsewhere. Seems this 'missile incident' is still with the Department of Cover-Our-Arse. I found it comical that the first release to come from the DOCOA (a.k.a. Department of Public Safety) said something along the lines of; we don't think this was anything, but if it was anything no one was ever in any danger.
Even my 18 month old said WTF to that one.
Saturday, February 6, 2010
OBJECT NOT HOBBY ROCKET
Pictures of Patrick Farrell doing his thing; but, he insists, 'his thing' was not what was witnessed in the sky above Harbour Mille
'NUFF SAID? HARDLY
Residents of a Harbour Mille, a coastal community on the south coast, are still left to wonder if several “huge, oversized bullet” shaped objects seen soaring through the sky on a Monday evening were missiles. But there is another concern as well.
Emmy Pardy, one of the eye witnesses who observed the objects as they flew through the sky on Monday January 25th, says that not knowing what the objects were is one thing, but dealing with “so called experts,“ who claim they know, is quite another.
Since the sighting and the publicity that has surround it, many theories of what the objects might have been have been raised. According to Pardy, two of those theories are particular upsetting.
“I heard this guy on the news saying that I must have seen planes. He had this big, fancy, explanation, too. Fine enough, but I‘ve seen planes before. I’ve seen them at sunset before. That three in a row would all look like rockets and not planes is ridiculous. Remember, I had my binoculars out. I had a good view. They look like bullets,” she says.
Emmy stresses that she and the other two witnesses; Darlene Stewart who captured the now well-known photos, and Darlene’s partner Hubert Dominaux, all watched each of the three objects for almost ten minutes each.
“You would think in that time that the conditions would change somewhat and if they were planes we would see that at some point,” she says.
Pardy is also upset with talk that the area is frequented by amateur rocket enthusiasts. “I’ve lived here all my life and that’s the first time I’ve heard of that one, though I think I know where that rumour started from,” she says.
Patrick Farrell, a licensed pyrotechnician and a high level commercial fireworks supervisor level two, married a girl from the area. While the couple and their two children live in Sunnyside, they do visit the region from time to time.
Farrell says he has worked with all types of propellants and he was, as a child, a model rocket enthusiast. “I built my own rockets and developed my own rocket fuels. I also used commercial solid rocket fuel disposable engines and have owned various liquid fuel engines,” he say.So, he would consider himself, “somewhat of an expert on model rockets,” because he experimented on them for many years.
And he was in Harbour Mille that day; but only in the morning. The rockets were seen in the sky around five in the evening.
“Unfortunately we left that morning to go back to Sunnyside as I was scheduled to workin Clarenville that same evening. So to clear up anyone thinking that it was me doing some test firing in the area, no, I was not there at the time, but I really wish I was,” he says.
Patrick says he knows of no other model rocket enthusiasts that reside in that area, and because of his local fireworks experiences, he’s sure he would have heard of it if there were. Has he ever seen anything like what was in the picture before in the skies over Harour Mille? Never, he says. Neither has anyone he knows. So what does he think the object is? Patrick says he is more comfortable focusing on what the object isn’t.
“I have studied those pictures taken at Harbour Mille for a long time and with the angle and obvious size of that object and (for the eye witnesses) to be able to watch it for an extended period of time, it is obviously not a model rocket and I really do not know why the Prime Minister’s Office would ever have made such a statement,” he says.
Farrell goes on to explain that a model rocket, even the larger, more elaborate ones, will last well less than a minute in the sky. “To get a picture of one you would need to be very close and would have to use a special high speed camera. Even with that said, you still would not get anything even close to the picture that was taken the other night,” he says.
What about the airplane theory? Or that the object was a high flying jet? Farrell laughs. Not likely, he says. “Did they even see the pictures? What are the chances that three jets were flying at an angle where you couldn’t see their wings or tail? I would say it was impossible to have all three of these things flying at the same angle like that. No, not a chance,” he says.
When pressed, Farrell weighs in on the missile theory. “My opinion, from the pictures I have looked at and from the number of witnesses and their similar accounts of what they saw, I would have to say it was definitely a missile test. And judging from how close it was to our Island, something went wrong. It was much too close to land,” he says.
Farrell knows the eye witnesses quite well, and he feels bad for the pressure they are under. It’s difficult being doubted and teased, he says, referring to comments made recently by Peter Mackay regarding putting a landing strip for UFO’s in Harbour Mille.
“I just hope one day the truth will come out as the good people of this province deserve to hear the truth about this. It is obvious to the people of this town what this actually was and I would like to hear the truth about it from an official statement,” he says. Pardy agrees, offering that all these alternative theories are hurting the odds of the truth ever being uncovered. “With the way everyone is being so quiet on what it actually was and so vocal on everything that we know it wasn’t it makes you wonder,” she says.
In the meantime, Judy Foote, MP for Random-Burin-St. George's, says she is on this. She also stated in an email that she acknowledged rumours on this a “rampant.” She is, she says, determined to get to the bottom of this mystery. Foote is calling for the RCMP file to be made public.
Pardy, who claims she was originally told by the RCMP that the objects were missiles launched by the French, says she is in support of anything that’s gets the truth out there. While she says she is frustrated, she is also optimistic. Says Pardy; “I think the truth will come out one day. But for now, this is all one big cover up.”
Emmy Pardy, one of the eye witnesses who observed the objects as they flew through the sky on Monday January 25th, says that not knowing what the objects were is one thing, but dealing with “so called experts,“ who claim they know, is quite another.
Since the sighting and the publicity that has surround it, many theories of what the objects might have been have been raised. According to Pardy, two of those theories are particular upsetting.
“I heard this guy on the news saying that I must have seen planes. He had this big, fancy, explanation, too. Fine enough, but I‘ve seen planes before. I’ve seen them at sunset before. That three in a row would all look like rockets and not planes is ridiculous. Remember, I had my binoculars out. I had a good view. They look like bullets,” she says.
Emmy stresses that she and the other two witnesses; Darlene Stewart who captured the now well-known photos, and Darlene’s partner Hubert Dominaux, all watched each of the three objects for almost ten minutes each.
“You would think in that time that the conditions would change somewhat and if they were planes we would see that at some point,” she says.
Pardy is also upset with talk that the area is frequented by amateur rocket enthusiasts. “I’ve lived here all my life and that’s the first time I’ve heard of that one, though I think I know where that rumour started from,” she says.
Patrick Farrell, a licensed pyrotechnician and a high level commercial fireworks supervisor level two, married a girl from the area. While the couple and their two children live in Sunnyside, they do visit the region from time to time.
Farrell says he has worked with all types of propellants and he was, as a child, a model rocket enthusiast. “I built my own rockets and developed my own rocket fuels. I also used commercial solid rocket fuel disposable engines and have owned various liquid fuel engines,” he say.So, he would consider himself, “somewhat of an expert on model rockets,” because he experimented on them for many years.
And he was in Harbour Mille that day; but only in the morning. The rockets were seen in the sky around five in the evening.
“Unfortunately we left that morning to go back to Sunnyside as I was scheduled to workin Clarenville that same evening. So to clear up anyone thinking that it was me doing some test firing in the area, no, I was not there at the time, but I really wish I was,” he says.
Patrick says he knows of no other model rocket enthusiasts that reside in that area, and because of his local fireworks experiences, he’s sure he would have heard of it if there were. Has he ever seen anything like what was in the picture before in the skies over Harour Mille? Never, he says. Neither has anyone he knows. So what does he think the object is? Patrick says he is more comfortable focusing on what the object isn’t.
“I have studied those pictures taken at Harbour Mille for a long time and with the angle and obvious size of that object and (for the eye witnesses) to be able to watch it for an extended period of time, it is obviously not a model rocket and I really do not know why the Prime Minister’s Office would ever have made such a statement,” he says.
Farrell goes on to explain that a model rocket, even the larger, more elaborate ones, will last well less than a minute in the sky. “To get a picture of one you would need to be very close and would have to use a special high speed camera. Even with that said, you still would not get anything even close to the picture that was taken the other night,” he says.
What about the airplane theory? Or that the object was a high flying jet? Farrell laughs. Not likely, he says. “Did they even see the pictures? What are the chances that three jets were flying at an angle where you couldn’t see their wings or tail? I would say it was impossible to have all three of these things flying at the same angle like that. No, not a chance,” he says.
When pressed, Farrell weighs in on the missile theory. “My opinion, from the pictures I have looked at and from the number of witnesses and their similar accounts of what they saw, I would have to say it was definitely a missile test. And judging from how close it was to our Island, something went wrong. It was much too close to land,” he says.
Farrell knows the eye witnesses quite well, and he feels bad for the pressure they are under. It’s difficult being doubted and teased, he says, referring to comments made recently by Peter Mackay regarding putting a landing strip for UFO’s in Harbour Mille.
“I just hope one day the truth will come out as the good people of this province deserve to hear the truth about this. It is obvious to the people of this town what this actually was and I would like to hear the truth about it from an official statement,” he says. Pardy agrees, offering that all these alternative theories are hurting the odds of the truth ever being uncovered. “With the way everyone is being so quiet on what it actually was and so vocal on everything that we know it wasn’t it makes you wonder,” she says.
In the meantime, Judy Foote, MP for Random-Burin-St. George's, says she is on this. She also stated in an email that she acknowledged rumours on this a “rampant.” She is, she says, determined to get to the bottom of this mystery. Foote is calling for the RCMP file to be made public.
Pardy, who claims she was originally told by the RCMP that the objects were missiles launched by the French, says she is in support of anything that’s gets the truth out there. While she says she is frustrated, she is also optimistic. Says Pardy; “I think the truth will come out one day. But for now, this is all one big cover up.”
Tuesday, February 2, 2010
WHAT GOES UP MUST COME DOWN
http://www.vocm.com/newsarticle.asp?mn=2&id=4019&latest=1
A resident of Point Lance on the Cape Shore is wondering what may have caused a loud explosion heard throughout the community last Monday night. William Careen tells VOCM News it was about 7 or 7:30 when he heard a "big bang". He says his neighbours heard the same thing. Careen says he didn't think much of it, until word started to spread about the rocket-like objects seen in the sky over the Burin Peninsula that same Monday evening. Careen says as far as he is aware, there was no blasting activity taking place in or near the community at the time.
The Prime Minister's Office has dismissed the rocket sighting, speculating that there are a lot of model rocket enthusiasts in the area. In St. John's last week, Defense Minsiter Peter MacKay acknowledged that despite their best efforts, they cannot figure out what the missile or rocket-like objects were, but has assured the public they shouldn't be of concern.
A Finnish UFO researcher meanwhile says he believes the pictures captured of the object in the sky over the Burin Peninsula last week was a jetliner and its contrail, which appears like flame in the setting sun.
A resident of Point Lance on the Cape Shore is wondering what may have caused a loud explosion heard throughout the community last Monday night. William Careen tells VOCM News it was about 7 or 7:30 when he heard a "big bang". He says his neighbours heard the same thing. Careen says he didn't think much of it, until word started to spread about the rocket-like objects seen in the sky over the Burin Peninsula that same Monday evening. Careen says as far as he is aware, there was no blasting activity taking place in or near the community at the time.
The Prime Minister's Office has dismissed the rocket sighting, speculating that there are a lot of model rocket enthusiasts in the area. In St. John's last week, Defense Minsiter Peter MacKay acknowledged that despite their best efforts, they cannot figure out what the missile or rocket-like objects were, but has assured the public they shouldn't be of concern.
A Finnish UFO researcher meanwhile says he believes the pictures captured of the object in the sky over the Burin Peninsula last week was a jetliner and its contrail, which appears like flame in the setting sun.
WHISTLE BLOWN ON MISSILE?
There are now news reports out of France that the French Armament Procurement Agency carried out test firing of a M51 ballistic missile on January 27th. This was, reports say, the forth such test and this particular missile was launched by the “Le Terrible” submarine. While there is yet no official word indicating that any of the three other tests conducted using the M51 could have been what the residents of Harbour Millle witnessed flying across the sky on Monday evening, there is speculation. Witness who saw the three missile-like U.F.O’s say that this explanation makes sense, though it certainly brings them no great relief. “Why can’t they just say if this is what it was or wasn’t? Why does the news have to come off the internet? This should be straight forward. A yes it is or a no it isn’t,” Darlene says.
If this is indeed what was seen in Burin Peninsula skies then this isn’t the first time French missile testing has created a stir in this province. In 2007 then Canadian Transportation Minister Lawrence Cannon created waves when he indicated that such missile testing by the French would create no safety threat to air travelers or residence of Canada. He was referring specifically to a missile test the French had conducted in November of 2006 and while he dismissed those who said such testing put ships and aircraft in danger, notes released under the Freedom of Information Act revealed otherwise. The notes were written by then Defense Minister Gordon O’Connor and he expressed concerns. Besides the possibility of debris falling into the waters of the North Atlantic, he questioned if there could also be an economic impact if air traffic controllers in Gander had to divert air traffic. The testing had been conducted without incident, however the incident troubled many Newfoundland residents at the time. With this latest missile sighting, and with no official word forthcoming, residents are left to wonder and speculate.
Darlene expressed the concern best with this words; “Makes you wonder what happens in our skies on days when it isn’t clear, or at night when you can’t see anything. I guess what they say is true; we really don’t know what’s out there, do we?”
If this is indeed what was seen in Burin Peninsula skies then this isn’t the first time French missile testing has created a stir in this province. In 2007 then Canadian Transportation Minister Lawrence Cannon created waves when he indicated that such missile testing by the French would create no safety threat to air travelers or residence of Canada. He was referring specifically to a missile test the French had conducted in November of 2006 and while he dismissed those who said such testing put ships and aircraft in danger, notes released under the Freedom of Information Act revealed otherwise. The notes were written by then Defense Minister Gordon O’Connor and he expressed concerns. Besides the possibility of debris falling into the waters of the North Atlantic, he questioned if there could also be an economic impact if air traffic controllers in Gander had to divert air traffic. The testing had been conducted without incident, however the incident troubled many Newfoundland residents at the time. With this latest missile sighting, and with no official word forthcoming, residents are left to wonder and speculate.
Darlene expressed the concern best with this words; “Makes you wonder what happens in our skies on days when it isn’t clear, or at night when you can’t see anything. I guess what they say is true; we really don’t know what’s out there, do we?”
COVER H'UP
A Harbour Mille woman who was initially told by the R.C.M.P that the U.F.O. she and another resident spotted near that community Monday evening was a test missile fired from the French island of St- Pierre and Miquelon is now left wondering which is the biggest mystery; the U.F.O or the explanation from authorities that have followed the sighting.
At around five p.m. on January 25th, Emmy Pardy and Darlene Stewart both saw what appeared to be three missiles flying across the sky; at about five minute intervals, one after the other. Stewart, used to taking sunset shots at that time of day, grabbed her camera and took three photographs of the mysterious object. Pardy opted for a pair of binoculars and moved outside to her patio for a better view.
D.F.O officials and the R.C.M.P. were notified and supplied with a copy of Stewart’s pictures. An investigation was launched. Pardy says that late on Tuesday evening R.C.M.P Cst. Mortimer reached her by phone and informed her that the objects were indeed missiles and that they had been test fired by the army stationed at the French Island of St-Pierre. Follow up calls made by The Telegram to the R.C.M.P detachment in Marystown to confirm that information were met with denials and claims that there were no missiles fired from St-Pierre. Sgt. Edgecombe, also with the Marystown detachment, stated that the R.C.M.P had no official confirmation on what the objects were and that the Department of National Defense should be contacted for more information. When informed that D.N.D officials were referring inquiries back to them, Sgt. Edgecombe wasn’t impressed. ”If missiles were being fired on Canada then that has nothing to do with the R.C.M.P. detachment in Marystown or anywhere,” an obviously frustrated Edgecombe said when asked for further comment.
According to Edgecombe, the R.C.M.P did their due diligence by traveling to the community and interviewing witnesses. Their involvement should end there, he says. “Yes, from the pictures it does look like missiles but there is a danger in sending out that information. No one told anyone officially that this was a case of missiles being fired from St-Pierre or anywhere because we just don‘t know officially what this was,” he says.
Stewart says she doesn’t care what anyone says, she knows what she saw; and the objects looked like missiles to her.
“It was the most spectacular, yet the most terrifying thing I have ever seen. The objects looked like they may have initially come from the ocean, like perhaps from a submarine, but I couldn‘t really say,” says Stewart, adding that she hasn’t had a restful nights sleep since the sighting. “I’m terrified and still shaking just talking about this again.”
Pardy, who has spent her entire life in the seaside community of Hr. Mille, says has been left “stunned,” by the experience. Says Pardy; “I’ve never seen anything like it before. To me, yes, it did seem like it was coming from the ocean, traveling out over the bay like it was shot from somewhere either in the ocean or on it.”
When informed of the latest R.C.M.P stance Pardy was not impressed.
“This is insane. First I saw this U.F.O in the sky and didn’t know but it was E.T. come home and then I was told that it was a test missile fired by the army in St-Pierre and then I find out that now that their saying that’s not what it was at all, well, if that wasn‘t what it was then someone needs to tell me what it was for real this time,” she says.
Pardy placed another call to Cst. Mortimer who she says again confirmed for her that the object was a missile. “He told me, yes, it was a missile and that the military was made aware of this, but I don’t know and he wouldn’t say if they were made aware of the situation before the missiles were shot off or after.” Pardy claims she was also told that no other information would be released at this time and that the information she was told has not been officially released.
Stewart, when informed of the latest developments, began to shake with frustration, anger, and fear. She says that if she didn’t have the proof, even she would begin questioning what she saw. “Honestly, it’s like we’re made out to be crazy. I saw what I saw. I have the proof. Emmy saw it too. What else do they want?” she asks.
MP Gerry Byrne says he has seen the pictures and says this seems to be a very credible report to Canadian government officials from two of its residents that a significant event did occur. While he would like to help unravel the mystery, he says he feels as if his hands are tied. “The proper place to bring this up is in Question Period, but the House is closed and that isn’t possible,” he said from Ottawa. The citizen’s of this province have a right to know what happened, he says, though he readily admits there is a possibility that a straightforward answer may not be imminent. “I’d like to have the opportunity to ask the tough questions of our government. What do you know, when did you know it, and what can you tell us. Instead, we have had the communication door closed on us,” he says.
Pardy says she doesn’t care who ultimately answers the question of what was in the sky that night as long as it is finally answered. In the meantime she is left wondering what the big secret is.
“Just tell us what it was. Someone knows, or they should know, and that someone who knows should tell the public. What goes up eventually comes down somewhere, so this can’t be any great secret. Try jigging a fish out in the harbour. The Fisheries would be right there, right? So surely they know where three missiles spotted off back cove in Harbour Mille were fired from.”
(pictured are Darlene and her partner Hubert, two eye witnesses)
UFOH! OH! OH!
In the early evening hours of January 25th, Darlene Stewart and her partner Hubert Dominaux got the fright of their lives. The couple were enjoying watching the sun set from their sea side home in Harbour Mille on the Burin Peninsula when they saw what appeared to be a U.F.O racing across the sky.
“It was just the sky and the beautiful colours one second and then this other thing, like a rocket, shooting across the sky the next,” begins Darlene, still shaken from the experience.
There wasn’t only one “rocket” but three, each following the other by about five minutes. After witnessing the first rocket, Darlene, instantly alarmed, grabbed her camera and the phone. She managed to get a picture of one of the rockets.
Emmy Pardy was buzzing around her kitchen when she noticed the tale end of the first rocket. That’s when her phone rang. It was Darlene.
“My eyes aren’t the best so I grabbed my binoculars and I was just amazed at what I saw. I’ve lived here a long time and I’ve never seen anything like it,” Emmy says.
According to Emmy, the object appeared to be a “silver tipped rocket,” with a trail of black smoke shooting out from behind it. She couldn’t judge the distance, but the object appeared to have come from the water’s surface. It was traveling diagonally into the sky.
“It was out over the water and there was no sound. I looked for a ship, to see if anyone was in trouble even thought I knew it wasn’t a flair. It put me in mind like there was a submarine in the water and it was shooting up because when the next two rockets went off it was like they were being shot from a different spot in the water; almost like a submarine had moved to a different spot,” she says.
Emmy, while still on the phone with her excited neighbour, watched the three rockets as they shot across the sky and wondered what they were.
“I was tormenting Darlene, saying; ’it’s a bird, it’s a plane, no, it’s E.T. come home,’ but honest I couldn‘t figure out what it was and I was a bit nervous myself as I watched them,” she says.
The Herald contacted the Department of Fisheries and Oceans and the Royal Canadian Mounted Police. Neither had any idea what the objects were, though the R.C.M.P has launched an investigation into the incident. Emmy Pardy had initially been told by the R.CM.P that the object was a missile that had been launched by the army in St Pierre. Follow up calls to the R.C.M.P say that simply isn’t the case, and they indicated that St. Pierre has no access to missiles of that type. The officer suggested further inquiries go through the Department of National Defense. Calls made to that department have not yet been returned.
Darlene says she can’t imagine she’ll get much in the way of a restful nights sleep until she knows for sure what the rockets were. “This wasn’t a comforting sight. If there are military tests going on then we should have some kind of a heads up so we don’t have to worry we’re under attack or something,” she says.
Darlene is grateful that the incident is now under investigation, adding that things that go up must also eventually come down.
“This concerns me so much. What was it? Where did it come from is one question but the bigger question is where did it come down at? What if it landed somewhere where it shouldn’t have?”
In the meantime Darlene says she will have her camera at the ready and her eyes on the sky. She isn’t taking any chances. “It was hard to tell how far away this thing was. I can’t rest. I can’t. Not until I know. We have a right to know.”
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